Disappointed re: application for doodle...

I didnt actually send the application because I got to reading an old forum from last year about fenced yards and doodles, and well.. there is no point, we have the top 3 reasons no one will adopt to us. :-( Even though we are educated loving attentive parents our fence is not secured 100% and we do not have locking gates, we do have toddlers and we are sort of first time dog owners. Guess we could weasel out of the last part it has just been a few years.

We have 18 acres and a park like orchard and yard combo, once we priced fencing it all in and was choked by the cost. Instead we have our boys trained to not even go near the road. Which is why we had a training plan and even a trainer to help with the dog. But I guess that doesnt matter. Im bummed, will have to keep an eye at out local pounds that dont care. :-(

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AdminPermalink Reply by LM Fowler - Admin on August 10, 2010 at 6:37pm

Don't discount that no-one will adopt to you. That post was from last year and if I remember correctly, it says some or most won't adopt under certain conditions. Never say never. Many rescues will talk to you to judge. I always made my decisions about my fosters based on talking to the family. I could get a sense about people based on how they answered certain questions.

Other rescues won't adopt to people without a fence, period, no discussion. But that is not all. I would keep up your search, put in lot's of apps as your dog IS out there. Many are in pounds and many are in high kill shelters and most things won't matter as long as the dog is out. The reasons why rescues are leery about adopting without a fence and with young kids is because rescue dogs are at a higher risk for bolting and taking off before they have bonded and rescues do not want to take that chance. But that is a risk that you or anyone would need to be aware of, no matter where you get the dog from.

I hope you keep looking, we are here to bounce ideas off of and root you on. Don't give up.
-Lynne

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Permalink Reply by Eve Austin Baker on August 10, 2010 at 10:27pm

what about wirless fencing

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Member Since 2010Permalink Reply by Krista on August 10, 2010 at 10:36pm

honestly I personally think wireless is cruel. Our neighbor uses it successfully on their golden retriever but I just dont think I could do the training part even. I wouldnt shock my child and the puppy would be pretty much another child.

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AdminPermalink Reply by LM Fowler - Admin on August 10, 2010 at 10:40pm

For the same reasons, outlined above, many rescues will not adopt. E-fences are not secure to a dog who has not been trained on one and many rescue dogs will bolt if given an opportunity, especially within the first month.

I have had an e-fence for years and my dogs have been trained on it and they have still, at times, gone through it to chase another dog or a kid on a bike. It is not a secure alternative to a physical fence.

It also will not stop someone or another animal from coming on to your property.

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Member Since 2010Permalink Reply by Krista on August 10, 2010 at 10:48pm

No offense to anyone else.. Sorry if I did. It is just my personally opinion for our family.

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AdminPermalink Reply by LM Fowler - Admin on August 10, 2010 at 10:52pm

It is really not that hard of a shock. I felt the same way as you, so I tried it before I would allow it to be put on my dog. It didn't hurt. It was like a tingle if anything. Which is part of the reason why they are not 100% secure. It will stop one dog but not another. I have a big, Goofy Doodle (yes, that's his breed) who could care less and goes right through it. A neighbor of mine has a dog who will sit on the line and get repeated shocks without moving. They are not reliable and for many dogs, they don't work.

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Permalink Reply by Eve Austin Baker on August 10, 2010 at 10:52pm

I haven't used one. I don't have to have a fence currently because I just have the Yorkie and her pup.

They don't leave my side or when I let them out they want right back in. Also like you we live in a pretty rural area.

It would be my first time adopting a larger breed. I didn't mean to suggest something cruel. Lynn is right about the uncertainty I have heard of that.

Best of luck and the obviously the best choice would be choice regular ol' fencing.

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Permalink Reply by Eve Austin Baker on August 11, 2010 at 1:18am

Thanks Krista and Lynne,

Hopefully we will both find what we are looking to adopt and they will let us adopt them fence or no fence.

LOVE the story about the neighbor's dog who sits there and gets repeatedly shocked lol You wonder what on earth they are doing sometimes.

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Member Since 2010Permalink Reply by Krista on August 11, 2010 at 1:36am

lol yes.. not a bright bulb or he is into pain! lol Our neighbors golden retriever wouldnt come off their deck for weeks after training and then even now a few years later that dog doesnt go anywhere near the "fence line". He will sit and look over willingly at the kids or the chickens but never moves. The owner doesnt socialize her much with the neighbors either.. might be part of the training??

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Permalink Reply by Sue & the Crew on August 11, 2010 at 8:35am

Krista (and Eve) - Lynne gave you great advise. Keep trying. Every rescue/shelter is different. Your dogs are out there!

I personally prefer regular old fencing simply because it is the most reliable, secure method. I never have to worry about one of my girls bolting. I will admit my girls have poor recall, which is my fault for not training them consistently to come when called - I'm really going to have to work on that. Anyways, I just went with black chain link - it wasn't too expensive and looks a bit better than plain old chain link.

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AdminPermalink Reply by LM Fowler - Admin on August 11, 2010 at 8:45am

Believe me, I know fencing is expensive. I only have my backyard fenced and I just had to add 2 feet higher to it because my mini is a fence jumper. But having at least a partial area with a physical fence might be the answer over not having any fence. It might be something to think about.